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    Home » How to Grow From Doing Hard Things | Michael Easter

    How to Grow From Doing Hard Things | Michael Easter

    Mal AntoniBy Mal AntoniJune 16, 2025 All Videos 3 Mins Read
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    My guest is Michael Easter, a professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas and best-selling author. We discuss how particular daily life choices undermine our level of joy, our sense of purpose, our physical and our mental health and the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly steps we can all take to vastly increase our level of motivation, gratitude and overall life satisfaction. We discuss how effortful foraging for information, undistracted reflection and physical exercise are ways to ‘invest’ and therefore grow our levels of dopamine, energy and motivation, whereas low-friction activities are specifically designed to hijack or diminish them. We also discuss dopamine reward circuitry in the context of how to build and reset one’s energy levels and create a deeper sense of purpose in work, creative pursuits and relationships.

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    *Timestamps*
    00:00:00 Michael Easter
    00:02:14 Discomforts, Modern vs Ancient Life
    00:07:35 Sponsors: Maui Nui & Helix Sleep
    00:10:17 Modern Problems, Exercise, Trail vs Treadmill Running, Optic Flow, Hunting
    00:20:01 Risk & Rewards, Intellectual vs Experiential Understanding
    00:23:39 Modern Luxuries, First-World Problems, Gratitude, Tool: Volunteer
    00:34:33 Rites of Passage, Tool: Challenge, Narrative & Purpose; Embracing Discomfort
    00:40:43 Sponsors: AG1 & Mateina
    00:43:33 Choice, 2% Study, Silence, Tools: Do Slightly Harder Things; Notice Resistance
    00:54:05 Cognitive Challenges, Walking, Screens, Tool: Sitting with Boredom
    01:01:53 Capturing Ideas, Attractor States, Tool: Being in Nature
    01:06:50 2% Rule, Rites of Passage, Tool: Misogi Challenge
    01:14:12 Phones, Sharing with Others, Social Media, Tool: Reflection vs Screen Time
    01:23:23 Dopamine, Spending vs Investing, Guilt
    01:29:48 Sponsor: Function
    01:31:35 Relaxation, Shared Identities & Community, Music, Tool: In-Person Meeting
    01:38:58 Loss of Gathering Places, Internet & Distorted Views, Hitchhiking
    01:45:06 Misogi & Entry Points; Daily Schedule, Caffeine Intake
    01:54:37 Optimal Circadian Schedule, Work Bouts, Exercise
    01:59:12 Outdoor Adventures, Backpacking & Nutrition
    02:04:57 Camping & Sleeping, Nature, Three-Day Effect
    02:10:10 Sea Squirts; Misogi Adventures & Cognitive Vigor, Writing, Happiness
    02:17:55 Effort & Rewards, Addiction, Dopamine, Catecholamines
    02:22:36 Humans, Running & Carrying Weight, Fat Loss, Tool: How to Start Rucking
    02:32:32 Physical/Cognitive Pursuits & Resistance; Creative “Magic” & Foraging
    02:39:27 Motivation; Slot Machines, Loss Disguised as a Win, Speed
    02:46:06 Gambling, Dopamine, Addiction
    02:50:29 Tool: Avoid Frictionless Foraging; Sports Betting, Speed; Junk Food, Three V’s
    02:56:22 Conveniences, Technology; Upcoming Book, Satisfaction
    03:02:57 Substack Links, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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    Mal Antoni

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