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    Home » Improving Science & Restoring Trust in Public Health | Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

    Improving Science & Restoring Trust in Public Health | Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

    Mal AntoniBy Mal AntoniJune 9, 2025 All Videos 3 Mins Read
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    My guest is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, MD, PhD, ⁠Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH)⁠ and ⁠Professor Emeritus of Health Policy at Stanford University⁠. We discuss which scientific questions ought to be the priority for NIH, how to incentivize bold, innovative science especially from younger labs, how to solve the replication crisis and restore trust and transparency in science and public health, including acknowledging prior failures by the NIH. We discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and the data and sociological factors that motivated lockdowns, masking and vaccine mandates. Dr. Bhattacharya shares his views on how to resolve the vaccine–autism debate and how best to find the causes and cures for autism and chronic diseases. The topics we cover impact everyone: male, female, young and old and, given that NIH is the premier research and public health organization in the world, extend to Americans and non-Americans alike.

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    *Dr. Jay Bhattacharya*
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    *Timestamps*
    00:00:00 Jay Bhattacharya
    00:06:56 National Institutes of Health (NIH), Mission
    00:09:12 Funding, Basic vs. Applied Research
    00:18:22 Sponsors: David & Eight Sleep
    00:21:20 Indirect Costs (IDC), Policies & Distribution
    00:30:43 Taxpayer Funding, Journal Access, Public Transparency
    00:38:14 Taxpayer Funding, Patents; Drug Costs in the USA vs Other Countries
    00:48:50 Reducing Medication Prices; R&D, Improving Health
    01:00:01 Sponsors: AG1 & Levels
    01:02:55 Lowering IDC?, Endowments, Monetary Distribution, Scientific Groupthink
    01:12:29 Grant Review Process, Innovation
    01:21:43 R01s, Tenure, Early Career Scientists & Novel Ideas
    01:31:46 Sociology of Grant Evaluation, Careerism in Science, Failures
    01:39:08 “Sick Care” System, Health Needs
    01:44:01 Sponsor: LMNT
    01:45:33 Incentives in Science, H-Index, Replication Crisis
    01:58:54 Scientists, Data Fraud, Changing Careers
    02:03:59 NIH & Changing Incentive Structure, Replication, Pro-Social Behavior
    02:15:26 Scientific Discovery, Careers & Changing Times, Journals & Publications
    02:19:56 NIH Grants & Appeals, Under-represented Populations, DEI
    02:28:58 Inductive vs Deductive Science; DEI & Grants; Young Scientists & NIH Funding
    02:39:38 Grant Funding, Identity & Race; Shift in NIH Priorities
    02:51:23 Public Trust & Science, COVID Pandemic, Lockdowns, Masks
    03:04:41 Pandemic Mandates & Economic Inequality; Fear; Public Health & Free Speech
    03:13:39 Masks, Harms, Public Health Messaging, Uniformity, Groupthink, Vaccines
    03:22:48 Academic Ostracism, Public Health Messaging & Opposition
    03:30:26 Culture of American Science, Discourse & Disagreement
    03:36:03 Vaccines, COVID Vaccines, Benefits & Harms
    03:47:05 Vaccine Mandates, Money, Public Health Messaging, Civil Liberties
    03:54:52 COVID Vaccines, Long-Term Effects; Long COVID, Vaccine Injury, Flu Shots
    04:06:47 Do Vaccines Cause Autism?; What Explains Rise in Autism
    04:18:33 Autism & NIH; MAHA & Restructuring NIH?
    04:25:47 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

    Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

    Mal Antoni

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